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We have an IRC channel, [irc://irc.freenode.net/microformats #microformats on the freenode network].
Join the microformats chat room to ask questions you have about microformats, learn how to contribute to the community, and to meet other people who are interested in microformats.


There's typically someone there at any point during the day, though there isn't always active discussion. Sometimes, though this is the best place to debate issues that need lots of back and forth discussion.
Formally hosted on IRC exclusively, the microformats chat is now available on:


__TOC__
* [https://discord.com/channels/866577279223595018/866659994903379968 Discord]
* [https://chat.indieweb.org/slack Slack]
* [https://app.element.io/#/room/#microformats:libera.chat Matrix]
* [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/microformats IRC] (hosted on libera.chat)


= #microformats on freenode =
All of our chat rooms are bridged which means a message you send will be received by people who use any supported platform. Our chat rooms are all called #microformats.


The microformats channel is hosted on the freenode.net server.  See [[irc#Joining_a_server_and_channel|Joining a server and channel]] help for further information.
All people who are working with, or are curious about, microformats are welcome to join the community.
 
{{TOC-right}}
;shortURL
:http://ufs.cc/w/irc
 
== Quick Start ==
You may use a IRC client application such as [http://colloquy.info/ Colloquy] (Mac or iOS) or [https://market.android.com/details?id=org.yaaic&feature=search_result Yaaic on Android] to join:
* irc://irc.libera.chat/microformats
 
<!--
Alternatively you may use a browser to quickly join and chat:
* http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=microformats&nick=uf-wiki-visitor
-->
 
<!--* Firefox users: install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/ Chatzilla] IRC plugin.
As of 2020-12-15 this plugin no longer exists: "If you’ve followed a link from another site for an extension or theme, that item is no longer available." -->
<!--* http://leafychat.com/#microformats@irc.freenode.net
** (Leafy Chat redirects to Convore and doesn't appear to connect as of 2011-07-06)-->
 
The microformats IRC channel is hosted on the libera.chat server.  See [[irc#Joining_a_server_and_channel|Joining a server and channel]] help for further information and use of client applications which provide additional services (authenticated nicknames, logging, etc.).


== Logs ==
== Logs ==
Recent logs of the #microformats IRC channel can be found at:
* https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats


Logs are available here: http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/
<!--
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]


Atom feed of logs available here: http://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/log_feed/
If the krijnhoetmer logs have stopped logging or have any other problems:
# try this in the IRC channel: <br/><kbd>/invite krijnh #microformats</kbd><br/> if you see <br/><samp>krijnh joined the chat room.</samp><br/> then the krijnhoetmer logs should start working again. if you don't see that, then:
# go http://krijnhoetmer.nl/#contact
# leave a message in the Contact box in the right column for Krijn, e.g. <blockquote><p>"looks like the logs at http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats have stopped working, could you take a look?"</p></blockquote>
# Krijn is fairly responsive, expect that logging will resume shortly.
-->
Older logs can be found at the following locations for the following periods:
* [https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2011-02-12 2011-02-12]–[https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats current] at https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats (switched from Freenode to Libera.Chat on [https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2021-05-26 2021-05-26])
----
* [http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=freenode%23microformats&s=20090220&e=20090220 2009-02-20]–[https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats 2021-05-26] at [https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats freenode.logbot.info microformats IRC Logs] (continued to log Freenode even after 2021-05-26, then [https://freenode.logbot.info/_shutdown stopped] on [https://freenode.logbot.info/microformats/20210614 2021-06-14])
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20131028 2013-10-28] (partial) - [https://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20160129 2016-01-29] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130811 2013-08-11] (partial) - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130917 2013-09-17] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120726 2012-10-09] (partial) - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20130807 2013-08-07] at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120726 2012-07-26] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120916 2012-09-16] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20090220 2009-02-20] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20120621 2012-06-21] (partial) at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-04-05 2011-04-05] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-02-24 2011-02-24] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2011-03-03 2011-03-03] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-08-28 2009-08-28] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2010-09-27 2010-09-27] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-03-26 2009-03-26] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-06-29 2009-06-29] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]
* 2009-02-09 - 2009-02-20 '''missing'''. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here.
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-01-14 2009-01-14] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2009-02-09 2009-02-09] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20080825 2008-08-25] - [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats/20090114 2009-01-14] at [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs]
* 2008-08-16 - 2008-08-24 '''missing'''. if anyone has any logs for this time period, please upload them and add links here.
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2005-11-16 2005-11-16] - [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2008-08-16 2008-08-16] at [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach microformats IRC Logs]


== People on irc ==
Until sometime on 2007-07-16, there was an [http://microformat.makedatamakesense.com/log_feed/ atom feed] provided for the [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach IRC Logs].


=== logs status ===
* [http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=freenode%23microformats logbot.glob.com.au microformats IRC Logs] are current and live
* [http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/microformats krijnhoetmer microformats IRC Logs] appears to have stopped logging as of 2016-01.
** I emailed and heard back from Krijn on 2016-03-19 "Yeah, sorry, I know, server resources are very low for that (old) machine. I think it's sort of EOL.." [http://logs.glob.uno/?c=freenode%23microformats&s=21+Mar+2016&e=21+Mar+2016&h=Krijn#c86411] -- gRegor
* [http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/ rbach IRC Logs] appear to have stopped logging as of 2009-06-29.
== People on IRC ==
See our [[irc-people|list of IRC regulars]] and their normal timezones.
See our [[irc-people|list of IRC regulars]] and their normal timezones.


=== Admins ===
Our channel has regular admins, who are also mailing list and wiki admins. If you want to get their attention, just say "adminhelp".


Our channel has some admins, who are also mailing list and wiki admins. If you want to get their attention, just say "adminhelp".
==Bots on IRC==
The IRC channel uses these bots:
* [[Loqi]] - logs IRC, posts notifications to IRC of wiki edits
** If Loqi is missing, see https://indieweb.org/Loqi for instructions
** If Wiki edits are missing, ask an admin for "adminhelp", and reference [[admin-how-to#irc]]


== Greetings ==
=== Previous Bots ===
These bots were active ~2005-2009? (actual dates can likely be confirmed by checking old IRC logs)
* [[mfbot]] - logs all edits to this wiki. (Contact: [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]])
* [[mflogbot]] - logs the irc channel itself to archives on the web. (Contact: [[User:RobertBachmann|Robert Bachmann]])
* [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot]


To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief):
==== Greeting Bot ====
To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can use “JiBot” to create a definition for your username. To do so pass the <tt>?def</tt> command using something like the following convention (be brief):


<code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.example.com</nowiki></code>
<code>?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at <nowiki>http://www.example.com</nowiki></code>
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More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website]
More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot website]


==Bots==
== Getting started with IRC ==
'''Please note:''' These directions relate specifically to the services that [http://libera.chat/ Libera.chat] offers.  Other IRC servers may differ with the services they offer and how to operate them. You can also read a complete guide at https://libera.chat/guides


The IRC channel uses these bots:
===Joining a server and channel===
Most clients will offer you a connection dialogue showing the required fields for connection.  The details to connect to the server are:
 
*Server: <code>irc.libera.chat</code>
*Port: <code>6667</code> (usually default)
 
You should also fill in any fields to set your alias, real name and email address.  If available, save these settings for later to speed up connecting in future.


* [[mfbot]] - logs all edits to this wiki.
More on setting a password protected alias can be [[irc#Creating_a_registered_nickname|read here]].
* [[mflogbot]]
* [http://joiwiki.ito.com/joiwiki/index.cgi?jibot jibot]


==Meetups==
Once connected, you will most likely be presented with the "MOTD" (message of the day).  For the first visit, it is advisable to read this to find out about the server's policies and other important pieces of news and help, otherwise it can be ignored and you can either [[irc#Creating_a_registered_nickname|authenticate your alias]] or join a channel.


The idea of having IRC meetups (that is, a set time for meeting on IRC) has been suggested by [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]], as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups, though.
Your client may display to you a listing of all available channels.  Locate <code>#microformats</code> and select to join, or type <code>'''/join #microformats'''</code> into the command line available to you in your client (where you've just been shown your connection).


= Getting started with IRC =
Assuming you've connected correctly, you should now find youself in the microformats channel!


==Basic commands==
More detailed, but general, advice can be [http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html#intro read here].
'''Please note:''' These directions relate specifically to the services that [http://freenode.net/ Freenode] offers.  Other IRC servers may differ with the services they offer and how to operate them.


===Joining a server and channel===
...working on...
===Creating a registered nickname===
===Creating a registered nickname===
Registration means that a password becomes associated with your alias/nickname/sign-in name and from the point of registration authorisation is required to communicate using that alias.
Registration means that a password becomes associated with your alias/nickname/sign-in name and from the point of registration authorisation is required to communicate using that alias.
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Registration of a nickname is required for some channels, and should be done to protect your identity.
Registration of a nickname is required for some channels, and should be done to protect your identity.


To register with [http://freenode.net Freenode], you must communicate with their service known as NickServ.  The two basic command you will need to get started are:
To register with [https://libera.chat Libera.chat], you must communicate with their service known as NickServ.  The two basic command you will need to get started are:


For registration: <code>/msg nickserv register ''password'' ''email''</code>
For registration: <code>/msg nickserv register ''password'' ''email''</code>


For authentication (login): <code>/msg nickserv identify ''password''</code>
With <code>''password''</code> being a value of your choice.  You must also associate an email address with your nickname


With <code>''password''</code> and <code>''email''</code> being values of your choiceEmail is also optional, but advisable, should you want to request a password retrieval.
Your client may offer you an option to set your alias and password, so that you will not have to manually enter this information on each joinRefer to your client's help files for more on this.


Your client may offer you an option to set your alias and password, so that you will not have to manually enter this information on each join.  Refer to your client's help files for more on this.
These commands can be typed directly into the server window upon join, or whilst in a channel, just as you would normally send a message.


More detailed user registration command information can be found in [http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration Freenode's FAQ]
More detailed user registration command information can be found in [https://libera.chat/guides/registration Libera's guides]


===Communicating===
===Communicating===
...working on...
Sending a message to a channel may be as simple as joining the channel and typing into the window, just as you would with an Instant Messenger. You can refer to your client's help files for quicker/alternative methods of doing the following. For all clients the following commands are available (the parts in bold must be used, but are not seen by others):
===Advanced===
 
...working on...
'''Sending a message to the entire channel you are currently in:'''
 
Command: <kbd>'''/msg''' Hello world!</kbd>
 
Result: <samp><Bill> Hello world!</samp>
 
'''Sending an action/emotive/3rd person statement:'''
 
Command: <kbd>'''/me''' dances a code jig</kbd>
 
Result: <samp>Bill dances a code jig</samp>
 
'''Sending a message to one person only (private chat):'''
 
Command: <kbd>'''/msg Bob''' Hi, would you like to code jig?</kbd>
 
Result (for Bob only): <samp><Bill> Hi, would you like to code jig?</samp>


==Clients==
==Clients==
The following clients are recommended by #microformats participants:


The following clients are recommended by #microformats participants:
<!--
=== Web ===
* [http://leafychat.com/#microformats@irc.freenode.net Leafy Chat]
-->


===Windows===
===Windows===
* [http://www.mirc.com/ mIRC] — Popular Windows client. Trial version only.
* [http://xchat.org/ X-Chat] — Popular cross-platform client. [http://www.silverex.org/download/ Free Windows version] available.
* [http://www.adiirc.com/ AdiIRC] — Simple C# based IRC client.
* [http://www.miranda-im.org/ Miranda] — Lightweight, muti-protocol instant messenger.


* [http://www.mirc.com/ mIRC] - Popular Windows client. Trial version only.
=== Mac ===
* [http://xchat.org/ X-Chat] - Popular cross-platform client. [http://www.silverex.org/download/ Free Windows version] available.
* [http://colloquy.info Colloquy] open source, free
* [http://www.adiirc.com/ AdiIRC] - Simple C# based IRC client.
* [http://www.miranda-im.org/ Miranda] - Lightweight, muti-protocol instant messenger.
 
===Mac===
 
* [http://colloquy.info Colloquy] -- open source, free
* [http://sourceforge.net/projects/fire Fire] -- open source, free
* [http://www.snak.com/ Snak]
* [http://xchataqua.sourceforge.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome XChat Aqua] -- X11 based IRC chat
* [http://homepage.mac.com/philrobin/conversation/ Conversation]
* [http://homepage.mac.com/philrobin/conversation/ Conversation]
* [http://sourceforge.net/projects/fire Fire] — open source, free
* [http://www.conceitedsoftware.com/products/linkinus Linkinus]
* [http://www.chipersoft.com/minerva/ Minerva]
* [http://www.chipersoft.com/minerva/ Minerva]
* [http://www.snak.com/ Snak]
* [http://xchataqua.sourceforge.net/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome X-Chat Aqua]
** now has [http://www.portableapps.org PortableApps] version &#8212; [http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21685/portable-x-chat-aqua MacUpdate link]
* [http://www.aquaticx.com/ Xirc]
* [http://www.aquaticx.com/ Xirc]


===Cross-platform===
===Cross-platform===
* [http://www.hacksrus.com/~ginda/chatzilla/ Chatzilla] - Cross-platform IRC extension for Firefox
* [http://pidgin.im/ Pidgin] — Popular open-source multi-protocol windows client, using libpurple
* [http://irssi.org/ Irssi] - Unix client, often run from a shell, sometimes [http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi in conjunction with 'screen'].
* [http://irssi.org/ Irssi] Unix client, often run from a shell, sometimes [http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi in conjunction with 'screen'].
* [http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ Gaim] - Cross-platform multi-protocol instant messenger.
* [http://jirc.hick.org/jirc/ jIRCii]
* [http://jirc.hick.org/jirc/ jIRCii]


=IRC and microformats=
== meetups ==
== hCard ==
The idea of having IRC meetups (a set time for a meeting on IRC) has been suggested by [[User:RyanKing|Ryan King]], as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups.
''How do we maintain info about ircing in our hCards (nick, network, fav-channels?)?''
 
==IRC and microformats==
=== hCard ===
<div class="discussion">
* ''How do we maintain info about ircing in our hCards (nick, network, fav-channels?)?''
** presumably this would be done with a URL. - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 18:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
</div>
 
== Related discussions ==
* [[chat]] [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]]
 
==See also==
*[[irc-meetups]]
*[[discuss|Other discussion fora]]

Latest revision as of 08:49, 29 January 2022


Join the microformats chat room to ask questions you have about microformats, learn how to contribute to the community, and to meet other people who are interested in microformats.

Formally hosted on IRC exclusively, the microformats chat is now available on:

All of our chat rooms are bridged which means a message you send will be received by people who use any supported platform. Our chat rooms are all called #microformats.

All people who are working with, or are curious about, microformats are welcome to join the community.

shortURL
http://ufs.cc/w/irc

Quick Start

You may use a IRC client application such as Colloquy (Mac or iOS) or Yaaic on Android to join:


The microformats IRC channel is hosted on the libera.chat server. See Joining a server and channel help for further information and use of client applications which provide additional services (authenticated nicknames, logging, etc.).

Logs

Recent logs of the #microformats IRC channel can be found at:

Older logs can be found at the following locations for the following periods:


Until sometime on 2007-07-16, there was an atom feed provided for the rbach IRC Logs.

logs status

People on IRC

See our list of IRC regulars and their normal timezones.

Our channel has regular admins, who are also mailing list and wiki admins. If you want to get their attention, just say "adminhelp".

Bots on IRC

The IRC channel uses these bots:

Previous Bots

These bots were active ~2005-2009? (actual dates can likely be confirmed by checking old IRC logs)

Greeting Bot

To display a brief description of who you are each time you join the channel, you can use “JiBot” to create a definition for your username. To do so pass the ?def command using something like the following convention (be brief):

?def jdoe is John Doe and can be found online at http://www.example.com

More information about using JiBot commands can be found on the jibot website

Getting started with IRC

Please note: These directions relate specifically to the services that Libera.chat offers. Other IRC servers may differ with the services they offer and how to operate them. You can also read a complete guide at https://libera.chat/guides

Joining a server and channel

Most clients will offer you a connection dialogue showing the required fields for connection. The details to connect to the server are:

  • Server: irc.libera.chat
  • Port: 6667 (usually default)

You should also fill in any fields to set your alias, real name and email address. If available, save these settings for later to speed up connecting in future.

More on setting a password protected alias can be read here.

Once connected, you will most likely be presented with the "MOTD" (message of the day). For the first visit, it is advisable to read this to find out about the server's policies and other important pieces of news and help, otherwise it can be ignored and you can either authenticate your alias or join a channel.

Your client may display to you a listing of all available channels. Locate #microformats and select to join, or type /join #microformats into the command line available to you in your client (where you've just been shown your connection).

Assuming you've connected correctly, you should now find youself in the microformats channel!

More detailed, but general, advice can be read here.

Creating a registered nickname

Registration means that a password becomes associated with your alias/nickname/sign-in name and from the point of registration authorisation is required to communicate using that alias.

Registration of a nickname is required for some channels, and should be done to protect your identity.

To register with Libera.chat, you must communicate with their service known as NickServ. The two basic command you will need to get started are:

For registration: /msg nickserv register password email

With password being a value of your choice. You must also associate an email address with your nickname

Your client may offer you an option to set your alias and password, so that you will not have to manually enter this information on each join. Refer to your client's help files for more on this.

These commands can be typed directly into the server window upon join, or whilst in a channel, just as you would normally send a message.

More detailed user registration command information can be found in Libera's guides

Communicating

Sending a message to a channel may be as simple as joining the channel and typing into the window, just as you would with an Instant Messenger. You can refer to your client's help files for quicker/alternative methods of doing the following. For all clients the following commands are available (the parts in bold must be used, but are not seen by others):

Sending a message to the entire channel you are currently in:

Command: /msg Hello world!

Result: <Bill> Hello world!

Sending an action/emotive/3rd person statement:

Command: /me dances a code jig

Result: Bill dances a code jig

Sending a message to one person only (private chat):

Command: /msg Bob Hi, would you like to code jig?

Result (for Bob only): <Bill> Hi, would you like to code jig?

Clients

The following clients are recommended by #microformats participants:


Windows

  • mIRC — Popular Windows client. Trial version only.
  • X-Chat — Popular cross-platform client. Free Windows version available.
  • AdiIRC — Simple C# based IRC client.
  • Miranda — Lightweight, muti-protocol instant messenger.

Mac

Cross-platform

meetups

The idea of having IRC meetups (a set time for a meeting on IRC) has been suggested by Ryan King, as it appears to work well for the WordPress community and may help us from time-to-time. As of yet, there are no plans to have meetups.

IRC and microformats

hCard

  • How do we maintain info about ircing in our hCards (nick, network, fav-channels?)?
    • presumably this would be done with a URL. - Tantek 18:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Related discussions

See also